Transcription: My wife suggested it. I said, oh you're crazy. I don't do that sort of thing. That's not me. And when I went in there the first time and was talking to one of the peer support volunteers who herself had cancer, she kept suggesting this. I said, well, you know, it's not me. I'm not really into this sort of thing. Then she said, well, just try it. Just try it. And I'm so glad I did because it made an enormous difference. It surprised me that I suddenly find I got a lot out of this. guys.